for what it's worth

more mail

This is my last post for the evening, and then I swear I'm going to go have a life.

Yeah, right. I'm going to go read the next 50 pages of The Magus.

Anyhow. Another email from Oulios. This one, for a change, is pretty straightforward. And presents possibly the only valid reason for wanting to live someplace very cold right now versus someplace very warm. I wonder what Neurocam's got for a travel budget?

Pour vous:

Dear J Hawthorne,

A few comments in relation to your recent post: if I may be candid.
I left New Zealand when things became impossible for me to ensure
my safety in such a small community.  In the process of my
research, and efforts to expose Neurocam for what it is, I have had
to move several times: firstly, to follow Neurocam’s major
activities; secondly, in order to avoid becoming directly known and
located.

I applaud your public efforts to reveal the insidious danger that
Neurocam represents, and be assured, I will do all I can to support
you.  A few words of warning, however, are insisting on being
stated.  Neurocam, as it is currently called, has demonstrated an
ability to make people appear and disappear.  I for one, are not
quite as game as you are in having my IP and thus my exact GPS
location broadcast to the whole world.  As it is too late for you
to conceal these facts, you might wish to be judicious about what
you reveal and when.  This is why I am not immediately forthcoming
with everything I have discovered over the past few years: for my
safety and that of others.

As with my experiences with Neurocam I dare say you will have
noticed the apparently fictitious and apparently real are, like all
self conscious post modern texts, woven together into a tapestry of
preposterous proportions.  The tricky part is when the apparently
preposterous is in fact the truth.  And here, no amount of post-
modern pre-formatively contradictory assertions that all truth is
relative will save you when they come for you.  In summary, and to
be as clear as possible, I must say, be cautious of very real
consequences.

Candidly,

Oulios Iatromantis

"Power rests on the kind of knowledge that one holds."

plagiarism tastes like chocolate

I never really tried to pick apart the last email I received from Oulios. Fortunately Shemyaza has done quite a thorough job of it. So, since I have permission, I'll shoplift it like a five-year-old with a lollypop:

"This lecture was given at the end of 1918, i.e. shortly after the Communist revolution in Russia. Steiner alleged that the secret lodges of the West had turned Russia into a theater for their social experiments, and it looks as if the political development in the East was a very important factor as to why Steiner felt compelled to speak about these lodges and their activities..."

This quote is from an article called "The Secret Lodges of the West and their sinister plans with the worls population" by Tarjei Straume

Oulis would appear, in some light, to be comparing himself to Steiner and his expose of the Secret Occult Lodges and their nefarious activites.  Only Oulis is out to expose Neurocam...although maybe he is an operative..Steiner was still an occultist at the end of the day, and I'll return to this point.

I find the occult references emerging here interesting, given all the recent release of references to Ordo Temple Orientis rituals and Crowley. Are the OTO involved in Neurocam?

I don't believe so, OTO is a publically incorporated association, the principle people of which are too easy to track down (I know a few personally) - this isn't their style. But it would hardly be a pseudo-conspiracy without veiled references to an occult organisation like the OTO.

But here is the drum...despite his role as an exposer of occult Lodge activity, Steiner himself was reponsible for, or had involvement in, more than a few.

The "father" of the OTO, Theodore Reuss chartered Steiner's involvement in Memphis-Misraim Freemasonry. Steiner also established an occult school known as Mystica aeterna (dissolved by him in 1921) aside from his anthroposophical movement.

Pot calling the kettle black - so maybe Oulis is involved.

The writer of the article is associated with a "Anarchosophical" website

Is Ouilis an anarchosophicist?

As soon as anyone starts invoking the scourge of Western occult Lodges I immediately put my bullshit detector on, mainly because I belong to a few Lodges of various sorts and it is a game I already know the rules of very well. If he is using the phenomenon in a metaphorical way...well, let us see what we can intuit shall we?

Thank you, Shemyaza. Sorry it took me so long to get this post up.

mail call, part deux

As I mentioned earlier, I've also received new correspondence from Oulios. It's rather dense and oblique, however, and since this latest Brief Guide shit hit the fan I really haven't had time to go through it with the fine-toothed Suspicious Comb that correspondence from dear Oulios requires. I'll post it here and you can mull it over with me.

Ahhh such bait: and so little time to finesse the finger food for you.  Perhaps you’d prefer if we continued to conduct this foray al a carte? Your choice I suppose.

Mutual heckles aside, however, I am still awaiting Steve’s (aka EgoTrip’s) revelations concerning the contents of the mini-disk that he surreptitiously found inside the package recently, and briefly, entrusted to him. Hearing more about Pine Gap would interest all of the Neurocam net researchers. Potentially, it could be very revealing and consequentially beneficial to others as well. Is there a connection to experiments conducted around the world? Were there any operational morsels mentioned? Does it implicate Graham (aka capcoincidence) as a higher level operative – one for whom a few veils of encrusting entrustment have been erased? Perhaps its time Ego took a little Trip into sharing with others?

"One of the most dramatic things about the human condition is the macabre connection between stupidity and self-reflection. It is stupidity that forces the average man to discard anything that does not conform with his self-reflective expectations." A Toltect Warrior

To be as helpful as is safe for me, I suggest that while your googling gravitas marks a generation, your suspicion snooping sense is a little off. You have all the clues: you’ve even sparingly used italics splendidly. But the warnings of where not to get trapped were offered. Illnesses are defined by apparent causes and their symptoms, knowledge is furthered by discovering what the deeper causes are – and to what ends they lead.

It seems I will have to risk being more direct. It is a tight rope of identity I walk, in what I reveal, and what I can lead you to assume. Blatantly blathering about every veil I passé din Neurocam would cast the mould of my relationship to them, for them. Perhaps however, I can get away with the following: the lodges established and continually tended by Neurocam initiate their members in ways that require, for any practical hope of sanity, that they remain within.

"This lecture was given at the end of 1918, i.e. shortly after the Communist revolution in Russia. Steiner alleged that the secret lodges of the West had turned Russia into a theater for their social experiments, and it looks as if the political development in the East was a very important factor as to why Steiner felt compelled to speak about these lodges and their activities..."

Purposes are often served by evolving means - in fact, purposes with depth, as a rule, could be said to demand it. I am no Steiner, although I intuit his purpose.

Oulios

~ The worst that could happen to us is that we have to die, and since that is already our unalterable fate, we are free; those who have lost everything no longer have anything to fear. ~

in the beginning

Regarding the mythology of Neurocam, we may be seeing a subtle attempt to tie in the Who is Robert Henley materials to future narrative developments.

OI mentioned the Thule Society, Hitler, and Dr. Edmund Forster in one of his emails to me (and possibly to others). Hades_Chariot perhaps rightly characterized these references as "very standard 'spooky' subtext work," and was generally unimpressed with OI's communiques.

At first glance this reaction may be warranted. But, being unfamiliar with Thule and Forster, I flexed my Google-fu. Just for the hell of it. And maybe I'm reading too much into it (hah! the chances of that?), but it seems there may be an implied corollary between the identity mosh pit that was WIRH and the conspiracy theory that Hitler had his identity stolen by Aleister Crowley while under the treatment of Dr. Forster. Or, at the very least, OI may have been referring to the more mainstream theory that Hitler's murderous god complex was borne of Forster's hypnosis treatments after Hitler suffered from mustard-gas blindness in WW1.

I'm not convinced the "story" element of Neurocam is going anywhere (or that it's intended to), but it's interesting to see what they throw at us. And I imagine it's interesting for "them" to see what we make of it.

the mares that carry me (or how i learned to stop having a life and devote all my free time to this neurocam nonsense)

Is Oulios Iatromantis "in-game"? It's the question of the day. Tript says yes. Others think not. Maxwell Knight himself has even chimed in on the matter, via an email to operative Shemyaza:

Thank you for your correspondence.

Your supposition is correct. Oulios Iatromantis is not a representative,
nor operative, of Neurocam International. Any information imparted to you, by this individual, should be treated as extremely suspicious.

The motives, methods and intentions of Oulios Iatromantis are his own.
Neurocam International is not privy to this information and, thus, can not guarantee the safety and security of any operative who chooses to engage him.

Regards,

Maxwell Knight
Head, Human Resources Security Division
Neurocam International
[email protected]

Hmmm. Sounds an awful lot like a confirmation that Oulios Iatromantis (dude, could you have picked something easier to remember? I keep having to cut and paste your damn name...) is indeed an in-game player, albeit an "independent" one. So, since there's not much else Cam business going on at the moment (at least for us lonely non-Melbournian operatives), shall we waste take some time to look into the wisdom imparted by our new informant?

The meaning of his name has already been covered, but we'll retread and expand a bit.  Our journey starts with the ancient philosopher Parmeneides:

Parmeneides lived in the sixth century BC and was perhaps the greatest of the Pre-Socratic philosophers and the true "father" of Western philosophy, metaphysics and logic. Until a recent book by an outstanding Greek scholar explored the importance of the few fragments of his work that have come down to us, his legacy has been overshadowed by the giant figure of Plato who was in fact his pupil. Parmeneides was descended from a people called the Phocaeans who lived on the coast of Turkey, close to the island of Samos. They were great sea and land travelers, and their city became a meeting place between the East and the West. About 540 BC, the Phocaeans were forced out of their city by the Persian army and fled to the coast of Italy, just south of the Gulf of Sorrento, where they founded a city called Velia. Parmeneides was born in Velia soon after these events took place.

And then what?

One of the most fascinating aspects of his life is that he was the founder of a line of named healer-prophets which endured for at least five hundred years. Each one had a three-fold title. The first title was Iatromantis meaning a healer of a particular kind, one who was able to enter a dimension of consciousness that lies beyond both waking and dreaming yet is active or present in both. They healed the underlying psychic disturbance causing the symptoms of those who came to them for help. They paid close attention to dreams - their own dreams and the dreams of those who sought healing for mind or body. Their second title Pholarchos meant ‘Lord of the Lair’ or master of the technique of incubation through which they gained their connection with the transcendent dimension and their power to heal. The third title -Ouliades - meant ‘priest of Apollo’: an Apollo who was not the god of light and reason familiar to us, but a god of darkness, associated with caves, healing, the underworld and death.

Parmeneides and the great chain of shaman-healers who succeeded him entered what the Greeks called the immortal realm - and were initiated by the beings they encountered there. The emphasis attributed to Plato has been on the supremacy of reason and the rational mind, yet Plato also wrote that "Our greatest blessings come to us by way of madness, provided the madness is given us by divine gift." (Phaedrus) What we have increasingly lost is the ability to trust and develop the imagination as a vital faculty that can connect us with what lies beyond the horizon of our rational, conscious, reflecting mind. This mind can listen, interpret, assess, and apply what we learn through that connection. But it can also block access to it through ridicule, denial or overt persecution. Ultimately, in a culture like ours today, which fears and denies the non-rational, any attempt on the part of the greater dimension of soul to break through the barriers set up by the conscious mind may lead to breakdown and psychosis in those individuals who have a greater sensitivity than others or who, for various reasons, such as drug addiction or early trauma, are in a weakened physical or emotional state. I would surmise that the greater the denial of the non-rational in a culture, the greater the incidence of psychosis because there is no container of understanding to receive and mediate this experience for the individual.

So there you have it. Incidentally, the email signature used by our own Oulios Iatromantis is a fragment from one of Parmeneides' only surviving poems. The full version, as translated by Peter Kingsley, reads:

THE MARES that carry me as far as longing can reach
rode on, once they had come and fetched me onto the legendary
road of the divinity that carries the man who knows
through the vast and dark unknown. And on I was carried
as the mares, aware just where to go, kept carrying me
straining at the chariot; and the young woman led the way.
And the axle in the hubs let out the sound of a pipe
blazing from the pressure of the two well-rounded wheels
at either side, as they rapidly led on: young women, girls,
daughters of the Sun who had left the mansions of Night
for the light and pushed back the veils from their faces
with their hands.

These are the gates of the pathways of Night and Day,
held fast in place between the lintel above and a threshold of stone;
and they reach up into the heavens, filled with gigantic doors.
And the keys — that now open, now lock — are held fast by
Justice: she who always demands exact returns. And with
soft seductive words the girls cunningly persuaded her to
push back immediately, just for them, the bar that bolts
the gates. And as the doors flew open, making the bronze
axles with their pegs and nails spin — now one, now the other —
in their pipes, they created a gaping chasm. Straight through and
on the girls held fast their course for the chariot and horses,
straight down the road.

And the goddess welcomed me kindly, and took
my right hand in hers and spoke these words as she addressed me:
'Welcome young man, partnered by immortal charioteers,
reaching our home with the mares that carry you. For it was
no hard fate that sent you travelling this road — so far away
from the beaten track of humans — but Rightness, and Justice.
And what's needed is for you to learn all things: both the unshaken
heart of persuasive Truth and the opinions of mortals,
in which there's nothing that can truthfully be trusted at all.
But even so, this too you will learn — how beliefs based on
appearance ought to be believable as they travel all through
all there is.

Translation of the translation? Here's one:

Only a few fragments of his teaching survive. But he did leave a poem, an extraordinary poem that has never really been taken very seriously by scholars. He wrote it in the incantory metre of the great epic poems of the past, "poetry created under divine inspiration, revealing, as the poem itself says, what humans on their own can never see or know." Parmeneides’ poem describes his journey Into the underworld riding in a chariot drawn by mares which pass through huge bronze gates that stretch from earth to sky, gates that glide open on hinges and make a hissing sound as they move. He describes his encounter with a being whom he calls "The Goddess" although we know that her name was Persephone, Queen of the Underworld. (I should say here that from Neolithic times, the Goddess has personified the greater invisible dimension of soul). The poem is written in three parts: The first describes his journey into the realm of the goddess; the second what she taught him about "the unshaken heart of persuasive Truth"; the third describes our world and "the opinion of mortals, in which, she says, there’s nothing that can truthfully be trusted at all." What Parmeneides’ poem reveals is that he was practiced in the shamanic art of traveling beyond the confines of normal consciousness and that his writings about truth, justice and the right ordering of human society were derived from his direct experience of another dimension of reality. We have come to draw a rigid boundary between the rational and the non-rational but this boundary did not exist for Parmeneides.

This post is ridiculously long. Time for it to end.

damn straight

One last comment on this latest flurry of Cam activity and then I fall down go bed.

Over at Xade's house, JoJo says something I was also thinking, but didn't post because I'm a fundamentally lazy person and very tired right now. But it's worth holding up to the bald ugly light of day:

Fabry disease is a hereditary disease….  How is neurocam going to manipulate your genes to give you a hereditary disease?

full disclosure

Hamish just posted another email exchange with OI, so I guess I'll follow his lead and post mine too, since it contains different information.

First, this was my reply to his original email:

Your words are intriguing. Your name is even more so. What else can you tell me that will make me believe your message is genuine; that it is not merely a continuation of the "games" of Neurocam? If the question is one of purpose, what is the answer?

J

Almost instantly, I received this response:

Dear J Hawthorne,

I have recently provided proof of my knowledge about Neurocam to Operatives Xade, Hamish and Ego-Tript.  You may well enquire of them, what exactly was in the parcel I encouraged them to open, with extreme caution.  You might likewise be wise to use extreme caution in seeking clarification.

Although given your location and way with words, you may be more inclined to find research a satisfactory endeavor…

As you likely know, the Thule Society is a closer approximation of the deeper roots behind the façade of Crowley references.  Although not all of them are a smoke screen.  You can loose your mind in the 20th century's most absorbing conspiracy – many have.  But it won't help you understand Neurocam.  Nor will investigating the psychiatric treatment that Hitler received from Dr. Edmund Forster and the visions he started having – although it will give you a clue.  Genetic engineering – while you're alive, and with effects within mere months – is what is behind Neurocam's current incarnation.  Think eugenics and Aryan race, with a focus not on new born’s, but on forcefully evolving the living…

By the way, the term Aryan race has nothing to do with being white – it has everything to do with defining what being an evolved civilization and citizen means…

As you'll note from reading Hamish's blog, he doesn't seem to believe he's in possession of any "proof" of OI's veracity, just more cryptic confusion.

Xade's also been getting some interesting emails of late.

And Tript thinks he has a theory about our new friend...

hmmmm

Well that was effen quick. I just received a reply from Oulios Iatromantis, and I'm not quite sure what to make of it. As in, how to take it.

And here I thought this whole thing was going to be a cake walk. No, dear, it's going to be a mind fuck.

do you believe in neurocam?

Well, Hamish has already posted about this, so I guess there's no need for me to sit on it.

Yesterday I received the following email from [email protected] (links added by me):

Dear Lady J,

Let me keep this simple – please.  I must warn you, the Fabry crises are only the most obvious symptoms as a consequence of becoming too involved in Neurocam.  You are right that Neurocam is some kind of social experiment – just on a completely different scale than you think.  The question, as always, is one of purpose.

It seems that they're still only playing games with you, but trust me there's more at stake than you know.  The repercussions for your sanity, and your genetic health, are profound.

While they're focus is currently in Melbourne Australia – because, I suspect, of the lax security, abundance of medical facilities, high recreational drug usage and willing subjects – you're likely to be safer longer, as you are in the northern hemisphere.

At the very least if you ignore this, fine, you've be warned.  But don't let them inject anything into you, don't consume anything given to you by a Neurocam operative, and don't, under any conditions, remain in an air tight environment with any Neurocam personnel.  "You" will never be "you" again.

"…the limits of one's learning are determined by one's own nature. Therefore, there is no point in talking about knowledge.  Fear of knowledge is natural; all of us experience it.  But no matter how frightening learning is, it is more terrible to think of a person without knowledge." Don Juan

And, more dangerous.

Aleister Crowley is only a third of the more obvious "surfaces" used by Neurocam.  The truth is deeper, darker, and a whole lot more real.

Oulios Iatromantis

     ~ The mares that carry me as far as longing can reach; rode on, once they had come and fetched me onto the legendary; road of the divinity that carries the man who knows; through the vast and dark unknown ~

Very cloak and dagger, right down to the PGP encryption. So is the Cam embarking upon an elaboration of its mythology, or is this an outsider hoax? (Or, of course, is this message true?)

The email is fairly thorough, has only one glaring grammatical error, offers up the requisite obscure mythological reference (Oulios Iatromantis), and was sent in almost identical form to at least two operatives. So I'm guessing it's not an uninformed missive, in whatever way you want to interpret that statement.

I've sent a reply. We'll see what comes of it.